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Then there are those evangelical Christians

Leonard Pitts deplores the 2007 Pew Research Center survey findings that only 53 percent of us hold a favorable opinion of Muslim Americans.

OK, that sounds like a lot of bigotry out there. And Pitts is a crusader against bigotry.

But did I detect a trace of it from Pitts himself?

Referring again to the Pew survey, he continues: "Even evangelical Christians manage 60."

Even evangelical Christians? What's the inference, that they're loathsome fanatics for whom a 60 percent favorable rating is generous?

I must be mistaken because, surely, a liberal columnist couldn't be bigoted against evangelical Christians.

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jwg said:

And what was his reply to your email questioning his observation?

Nikos said:

How anyone could think Americans should have warm fuzzies for the religion that spawned the 911 debacle, et al., is beyond credibility.

We certainly shouldn't hate the average Muslim on the street, but there is no reason to expect a polling population to reflect a passive benevolence for a faith which, historically and presently, has used violent takeover as a major part of their MO for "outreach."

No one should expect Americans to have more than a watchful tolerance and personal politeness for Muslims. Anything beyond that will have to be earned by decades of retreat from violence and demgogery - which doesn't seem to be in the offing at present.

On a personal, one-on-one basis Christians should certainly rely on the Holy Spirit to grant them a redemptive love for all people, including Muslims. That's the "gentle as doves part." The "wise as serpents part" is equally appropriate in this case, however.

Doug said:

jwg, are you suggesting I should have sought further explanation from Pitts before drawing my own conclusion? No, thanks. Readers are entitled to apply their own interpretations. What's yours?

Nikos, I have to say I don't much like this kind of survey. It's an unreasonable question: Do you have a favorable view, or not, of American Muslims? Well, which ones? Those who are good neighbors, doctors, businessmen, professors, etc.? Or Jose Padilla and others who might support radical Islamic causes? The question assumes respondents form generalized impressions based on religion.

Or Jose Padilla and others who might support radical Islamic causes? The question assumes respondents form generalized impressions based on religion.* Doug

Hate to do this Doug! But others think that Religion is just a excuse to surpress your constitutional rights in a hidden police state?

Padilla trial highlights Bush Administration's manipulation of justice


Paul Craig Roberts [former US Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; co-author (with Lawrence Stratton) of The Tyranny of Good Intentions]: "The George W. Bush administration responded to the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon with an assault on US civil liberty that Bush and the DOJ justified in the name of "the war on terror." The government gave assurances that the draconian measures only apply to “terrorists.” “Terrorist,” however, was not defined. The government claimed the discretionary power to decide who is a “terrorist” without having to present evidence or charges in a court of law.

The Bush administration’s policy comprises an end-run around any notion of procedural due process of law. Administration assurances that harsh treatment is reserved only for “terrorists” is meaningless when the threshold process for determining who is and who is not a “terrorist” depends on executive discretion that is not subject to review. Substantive rights are useless without the procedural rights to enforce them.

Jose Padilla, a US citizen, was accused of intending to set off a radioactive “dirty bomb” in an American city. He was denied due process and the protection of habeas corpus. He was held for years under harsh conditions that brought about “essentially the destruction of a human being’s mind,” according to Dr. Angela Hegarty, a psychiatrist who spent 22 hours examining Padilla.

Eventually, the courts intervened. In December 2003 an appellate court ruled that Padilla could not be denied habeas corpus protection. To forestall another Supreme Court ruling against the Bush administration, the administration withdrew Padilla’s status as “enemy combatant” and filed criminal charges that bore no relationship to the administration’s original allegations that Padilla intended to explode a “dirty bomb.”

The only case the DOJ was able to manufacture against Padilla was that he was a “terrorist-wannabe.” Padilla was thus indicted on the Benthamite grounds that he might commit a terrorist act in the future.

By the time Padilla went to trial, he had been demonized for years in the media as the “dirty bomb” terrorist. In the Washington Post, August 17, 2007, Peter Whoriskey described the Padilla jury as a patriotic jury that appeared in court with one row of jurors dressed in red, one in white, and one in blue. As Lawrence Stratton and I write in the new edition of The Tyranny of Good Intentions: “It was a jury primed to be psychologically and emotionally manipulated by federal prosecutors. No member of this jury was going to return home to accusations of letting off the “dirty bomber.”

The main “evidence” introduced against Padilla was an unrelated 10-year old video of Osama bin Laden, which served to arouse in jurors fear, anger, and disturbing memories of September 11.

The prosecutors also claimed to have a form that Padilla is alleged to have completed in 2000, prior to September 11, 2001, to attend an al Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan. At that time Al Qaeda and the Taliban were fighting against a remnant of the Northern Alliance containing elements of the old Soviet regime to unify Afghanistan as an Islamic state. Although it is far fetched that al Qaeda sent out applications to attend its training camps, any such application by Padilla predated the 9/11 attack and was related only to domestic affairs in Afghanistan. Any such application has no relevance to any act of terrorism.

Padilla was convicted on all counts. In handing down a 17-year sentence, US District Judge Marcia Cooke denied the prosecutors’ request for a life sentence and observed: “There is no evidence that these defendants personally maimed, kidnapped or killed anyone in the United States or elsewhere.”

Under Blackstonian law, the basis of the US Constitution, the Padilla case has no crime and no intent to commit a crime. Judge Cooke vaguely recognized this, but US law has been pushed off its Blackstonian basis and is being reconstructed on a Benthamite basis.

Benthamite law is the great ally of tyranny. It permits people to be arrested on the suspicion that they might commit a crime in the future, to be tortured, and to be held indefinitely. In other words, suspicion leads to imprisonment without the check of warrant, judge, trial or jury.

This is the law that the Padilla case has given us. Padilla, an American citizen, was denied habeas corpus, tortured, and convicted of the Benthamite crime of being suspected of possibly committing a real crime in the future. The fact that judge and jury went along with the Benthamite proceeding shows that Benthamite justice can operate within the old Blackstonian process.

The Justice Department that manufactured the case against Padilla is the same DOJ that wrote memos justifying torture and findings that the President of the US need not obey federal statutes such as FISA or abide by the Geneva Conventions and the US Constitution. It is the same DOJ whose attorney general told Congress that the Constitution does not provide habeas corpus protection to every US citizen.

This same DOJ is the product of an administration the highest officers of which have been documented to have lied about Iraq 935 times in the two years following 9/11.

If the Bush administration will lie about matters of war and death and fabricate evidence to justify war, why won’t the administration lie and fabricate evidence in order to convict accused “terrorists” like Padilla and whomever else they please?

Harvey Silverglate has noted that the legal changes we have experienced since 9/11/2001 have destroyed the common law basis of US law. In terrorist cases, prosecutors do not need to fabricate evidence, because they can make crimes out of innocuous and even constitutionally protected activity. A case in point is the federal indictment of a Saudi graduate student at the University of Idaho who operated some Websites, a constitutionally-protected activity, where some participants in discussion groups advocated jihad. Applying a provision of the US PATRIOT Act, federal prosecutors indicted Omar Al-Hussayen for providing “expert advice or assistance” to terrorist organizations (see Silverglate, The Boston Globe, June 28, 2004). What prosecutors are doing goes beyond fabricating evidence. They are using amorphous terrorism statutes to criminalize ordinary aspects of everyday life. Another way of putting it is that prosecutors take ordinary events and stretch them to fit an expansive interpretation of a terrorism statute. A large amount of effort is committed to prosecuting activities that do not fit any common sense meaning of crime."

Dave Ribar said:

So much manufactured outrage, so little time.

jwg said:

Doug,

When it turns on a single word, yes.

Ditto what Dave said.

Doug said:

Ditto what Dave said? So where is this supposed outrage?

I'll invite you again to venture your own interpretation.

Nevertheless, to satisfy everyone's curiosity, I have sent an email to Pitts that says:

"A reader asks if you will explain why, in your recent column, you stated that 'even' evangelical Christians drew a favorable rating of 60 percent in a Pew survey.

"Were you making an inference that evangelical Christians deserve a lower rating?"

Doug said:

Update: Two attempts to email Pitts have bounced back with this message:

"The message could not be delivered because the recipient's mailbox is full."

jwg said:

Doug,

I went back to the source:
"A 2007 Pew Research Center survey found that 43 percent of us have a favorable opinion of Muslims (make it Muslim Americans and the number rises to 53 percent). Which may sound not so bad, except when you compare it to favorable ratings of other religious groups. Jews, for instance, are at 76 percent. Even evangelical Christians manage 60. And that ranking for Muslims represents a 5 point drop since 2004." and I don't see where he wrote that "that only 53 percent of us hold a favorable opinion of Muslim Americans."

My take is that his use of 'even' is merely a reflection of surprise that the favorable rating Evangelical Christians isn't higher.

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