Find the truth, pay the consequences
Let's hope these lawsuits get a full airing in open court -- no settlements.
If a court finds that the Greensboro Police Department was suddenly rife with racial discrimination under the leadership of ousted Chief David Wray, the offending parties should pay. Any who are still employed by the city should be let go
If, on the other hand, the court finds that these allegations lack merit, the plaintiffs should be ordered to pay all court costs and legal expenses for the defendants.
Furthermore, their continued employment should be considered detrimental to the city and department.
This is very serious business, and there should be serious consequences for everyone in the wrong.
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I don't know that I have ever agreed with you more.
Having learned just this morning (in the N&R) that there was a settlement offer made by our illustrious City Council just turns my stomach.
Posted on March 18, 2009 9:30 AM
Doug, I think this would make a great lead editorial so like 50,000 people would read it instead of Connie and I, but maybe I'm just being silly.
Looks like the plantiffs lawyer is plenty mad at Trudy Wade and you can't blame the guy. Don't ya hate it when you're trying to do a end-run backroom 750 large extortion and you're this close and somebody screws it up.
Jeez...
Posted on March 18, 2009 9:36 AM
I am a little lost when I find nothing to argue with you about.
Posted on March 18, 2009 9:56 AM
Well, technically, you may not be able to fire someone from a city job for filing a frivolous lawsuit.
Maybe you could make a case the person was a disruptive influence.
Posted on March 18, 2009 10:01 AM
I think you should be able to file the lawsuit without fear of recrimination (although it is probably naive thinking that it wouldn't muck up your future relations with your employer since most people, for some reason, have a silly bug-a-boo when it comes to getting sued) provided you are willing to re-imburse for the defendents legal expenses if you lose, and this has to come from your own pocket.
Posted on March 18, 2009 10:15 AM
Twocents: Try going to WE101 Greensboro. We bloggers have been on this from the beginning. (The Troublemaker, Guarino, Spanola Report, and others) You won't learn anything of value from the N&R. BB
Posted on March 18, 2009 1:57 PM
Just curious Doug when you make this comment "Furthermore, their continued employment should be considered detrimental to the city and department.
This is very serious business, and there should be serious consequences for everyone in the wrong."
Does this include reporters who report stories with bias and inaccurate facts or does the paper just bury their mistakes on the bottom of Sunday's A2 in real tiny print?
Case in point your ace investigative reporters correction:
"Correction A Feb. 22 column by Lorraine Ahearn about the not guilty verdict in the trial of Greensboro Police Detective Scott Sanders contained two errors. First, the interviews of residents by Sanders referred to in the column took place in Peggy Barker’s past neighborhood, not the neighborhood that David Wray and Barker were both living in at the time of the interviews. Second, there is no indication that Barker left the condominium close to Wray because of the actions of Sanders in interviewing neighbors in the past neighborhood."
Real hard for the N&R to throw stones until they clean up their own house.
Posted on March 18, 2009 4:50 PM
Brenda B., didn't you read the Pitts column today? It's the newspaper that's supposed to take out the trash. Not some blog.
Give them a chance. Jeez.
Posted on March 18, 2009 7:27 PM
bobbysitter, I hope you're not trying to present a serious analogy.
The subject is a public safety agency in which a large number of officers are pursuing legal action against their own employer. This is an indication of considerable inner turmoil, and it raises the question of how effectively this agency can do its job on behalf of the public.
Posted on March 19, 2009 8:41 AM
"Well, technically, you may not be able to fire someone from a city job for filing a frivolous lawsuit.
Maybe you could make a case the person was a disruptive influence."
There's very often a pretty big gap between a lawsuit where the plaintiff loses and one that is frivolous, Doug.
If the claims of these officers are found to lack merit, that's fine. But the behavior and statements of the former police chief and former city manager contributed greatly to the evolution of these lawsuits, and the city owns that. These claims didn't arise in a vacuum.
Regardless of the findings, these officers shouldn't have to shoulder the costs of the city's "mishandling" of this crisis, and they shouldn't be let go merely on the basis of filing the suits. You might say they should have pursued (exclusively) administrative efforts to seek redress, but when the concern is about the upper echelon, running it up the flagpole isn't always a safe approach.
I sincerely hope, for the sake of the GPD and the citizens, that nothing substantial is found. But that won't (automatically) prove those officers are "bad actors" in this and deserving of punishment.
Posted on March 19, 2009 11:41 AM
S.C. is right
Making a dollar where one can is as American as apple pie. If there are people out there who are going to pay you, whatever their reason or motivation is, most of us aren't going to ask too many questions. Take it, baby! Like Yogi says: When you come to a fork in the road, take it!
Posted on March 19, 2009 2:44 PM
Would love to see this in the editoral pages...
Johnson goes 50/50 on everything ...The paper
needs some leadership.....
Posted on March 19, 2009 7:41 PM
Would love to see this in the editoral pages...
Johnson goes 50/50 on everything ...The paper
needs some leadership.....
Posted on March 19, 2009 7:41 PM
Would love to see this in the editoral pages...
Johnson goes 50/50 on everything ...The paper
needs some leadership.....
Posted on March 19, 2009 7:41 PM
Would love to see this in the editoral pages...
Johnson goes 50/50 on everything ...The paper
needs some leadership.....
Posted on March 19, 2009 7:41 PM