Fast, not furious yet
Our editorial Sunday about how speeding cases are being handled in Guilford County courts.
Not consistently.
The DA's policy is to plea bargain, even speeds in the 90s, down to 9 mph over the speed limit if the defendant completes a safe-driving course and community service (one hour for every 1 mph over the speed limit) and pays a fine plus court costs. The fine seems to average about $200.
Sometimes the same deal applies to drivers charged with going 100 mph or even a little faster.
Most judges apparently go along with this, but not all.
The DA's philosophy is that this approach produces safer drivers in the long run.
It seems to be a theory at this point, with no data to back it up.
It also skirts the intent of state law, which was tightened up a couple of years ago in an attempt to crack down on extreme speeders getting off easy.
What's your opinion?
Anyone with a recent speeding ticket? What was your experience?
Personally, I'm skeptical. I think driving very fast is a habit that a safe-driving course and some community service may not break. On the other hand, if Guilford County was known for revoking driver's licenses as the law provides, the lead-foots might be more inclined to ease off the accelerator.
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I haven't had a ticket since 1987, so I can't answer that part of your question, but generally, the problem isn't so much the speeders as it is the slowpokes who insist on plugging up the fast lane. In any event, Guilford should not go out of its way to become a speed trap. Instead, why not punish people who cause accidents? It's always mystified me that mangling people and property with a car is so lightly punished.
Posted on April 6, 2009 11:14 AM
The law treats the same action differently according to result.
Fire a gun into the air, it's a minor charge at most.
If the bullets falls on someone and causes an injury, it's a more serious charge.
If it falls on someone and kills him, it's a very serious charge.
Driving 90 can be like firing a gun into the air.
Posted on April 6, 2009 11:48 AM
Doug as a father of 3, I haven't had any speeding tickets in more than 20 years but my children sure have. In each case the tickets were justified by speeding but were "handled" by lawyers and written down to violations that did not have any points associated with them. Of course it came with a fee.
We would all be better served if this court house discounting did not occur. If you're speeding, you get a ticket for speeding and pay the insurance company the increased rates for dangerous driving.
I believe that anyone over 15 miles per hour above posted speed is not only a danger to themselves and their passengers but a danger to you and me. They should recieve a sever enought punishment that makes them think long and hard about doing it again.
For speeders over 90, time to cool off and think about their choices is certainly a good option. A little walking never hurt someone either. There is no excuse for 90 miles an hour or more. The speeders know what they are doing. They are putting their life at risk and mine. Let them walk a while and think.
Posted on April 6, 2009 1:57 PM
Thanks, Latimer.
I've had similar experiences.
One of my boys, who shall remain nameless unless he chimes in, got a speeding ticket on 311 between High Point and Winston-Salem in Forsyth County. We did not hire a lawyer but consulted one in the family. The offending party completed a safe-driving course, had his speedometer checked and certified as being a few mph off, and he and I ventured into traffic court. Once there, we were astounded that pretty much everyone was getting off easy, and lots with lame excuses. Sure enough, my son presented his documentation to the ADA, who agreed to reduce the charge to improper equipment. He basically got off with court costs.
He was NOT cured of speeding, but after that he was on his own.
Posted on April 6, 2009 2:21 PM
Who administers the safe-driving course? If it's a private firm, you may want to look into how much it costs, and any connections between the firm and the officers of the court.
And if you need to borrow my tinfoil hat for a few days while you craft your own (it's preferred), no problem. I made an emergency back-up some time ago. ¦
Posted on April 6, 2009 6:57 PM
From what I understand, there are a couple of private courses available but some community colleges offer some. Also, a lot of speeders are from out of the area, even out of state, and they make their own arrangements for driving courses and community service where they live and are supposed to provide documentation.
Other than the speeders themselves, probably those who get the most benefit from all this are the lawyers. They can provide their clients with a service of substantial value: a reduction of high speeding charges to a very minor charge.
Posted on April 7, 2009 6:35 AM
I wonder if those guys who were racing, who killed the 3 people in Charlotte, saw the latest installment of Fast &Furious lately?
Posted on April 7, 2009 10:46 AM