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Seymour Hardy Floyd said:
I look very forward to the official debut of "Thinking Out Loud."
I am very curious to see how it begins and how it evolves.
I think many others will be drawn to it as well.
Blogging is still new for a lot of people, and by extension rather abstract.
I'm a definite newcomer; my only experience with blogging is visiting other people's Blogs; I don't have a Blog myself. (Just using the term itself becomes rather addictive, whether you're doing it or not.)
I have started reading articles in the newspaper, as well as postings within the "News & Record" Blogs, but I know I didn't pay much attention to earlier articles on the subject. I don't know excactly how detailed they might have been in explaining how Blogging works.
But since I missed earlier articles, and since other people may have also, follow-up explanation guides might be a good thing to offer.
One thing that the "News & Record" might consider doing in its editorial pages or within another section of the newspaper is a step-by-step mapping out of how Blogging works.
I'm thinking of something along the lines of the pages you devoted not too long ago to outlining how the editorial pages are structured and who and what goes into producing those pages.
You might include sample Blog posts that highlight how thoughts and ideas are exchanged.
I've seen print advertisements for your Blogs, but I'm not sure if a lot of people really understand what's being advertised.
One of the Sports Bloggers (Jim Young) even wrote specifically, "Don't be shy," and within that posting, pointed out how to post.
A "How To Blog" section in the "News & Record" might be a service that you could provide, a way to make Blogging less abstract, a tool for drawing more people to your own Blogs.
(At least one person, I believe, has pointed out that Blogs can function somewhat like the "Beep" section of the "Rhino Times"--as popular as that has been over the years, it seems like Blogging with the "News & Record" could become just as popular (maybe more so once people realize that Blogging allows you to control how your messages come out, instead of having to depend on transcriptions of voice messages).)
I may have the name wrong, but I believe it's Tim Rickard who does at least some of the artwork for the "News & Record." He might create a cartoon-like depiction of how Blogging occurs. A step-by-step written guide could accompany it, as well as an article focusing on How Blogging Works (as opposed to an article about how it's becoming more popular).
You might even create incentives for inventive postings, a way to draw more people in until they're hooked.
(I was reflecting on how I became a newspaper reader. I know it began either with the comics or the sports pages. The editorial pages are definitely my favorite section now, which is why I'm particularly excited that you are creating the "Thinking Out Loud" Blog. But in thinking about my initiation to newspapers through comics, it just popped into my head that you might want to create a "Comics" Blog. I'm not a regular comics reader any more, but I've sensed from some of what your staff has written that the comics inspire some of your readers' most passionate feelings toward your newspaper, positive or negative, depending on whether or not you keep people's favorite comics in your comics section. A Blog could allow an ongoing discussion of people's responses to comics, as well as debates about the value of individual comics.)
When do you plan for "Thinking Out Loud" to debut officially?
Thanks for the comment, Mr. Floyd, even before the blog debuts.
I believe you stumbled into this site "under construction" when it was prematurely linked to Nancy McLaughlin's new Web log, "The Front Pew."
And thanks for all the suggestions. The blog premieres on Monday, Jan. 31 -- if the creek don't rise.
See you then.
Mr. Floyd, by some measures you are now a blogger...when I wrote about the Dean campaign, I learned that some folks who only leave comments considered themselves bloggers...welcome to our world.
Today, an Editor's Note attached to Stephen P. Millikin's complaint about Molly Ivins' propaganda on Social Security reform made the astounding assertion that truth is a matter of conjecture or opinion. But then, I should not be suprised to learn that the esteemed and arrogant editor finds truth so elusive.
In the non-journalistic world in which I reside, a statement or thesis must be accompanied by body of evidence to support it to be determined truth.
The anger that I have expressed in these pages and letters to the editor is in response to conjecture & opinion being presented as gospel truth.
I do hope that the new approach openess and fairness that the scientific method will be given more respect.
Jasper, the note said nothing of the kind. It said, quote, "The Ivins column expressed AN OPINION about what SHE BELIEVES to be some people's motives in their push for Social Security reform. Whether that observation is 'true,' or as you [Millikin] say, 'a total falsehood' is a matter of conjecture and, well, opinion."
In other words, Ivins' opinion is ... a matter of opinion (at least, absent more information). The editor's note doesn't even address "truth."
I won't speak for Allen, but personally, I prefer to be criticized for things I actually said, as opposed to things I supposedly said but actually didn't.
Twist it as you will, sir, Ivian's opinion is a damned lie until there is more evidence to support the thesis. The pack mentallity of you journalists is overwhelming isn't it?
Jasper writes: "In the non-journalistic world in which I reside, a statement or thesis must be accompanied by body of evidence to support it to be determined truth."
Can I move there? In the real world these days, might makes right.
In the scientific world, there must be a body of evidence, but then someone can just call all the scientists "liberals" and ignore their work.
So if you know of an actual ivory tower in which people take heed of evidence, let me know. I'd like to visit.
Jasper: Well, if by "twisting" and engaging in a "pack mentality," you mean, "holding up the actual wording as evidence of my point," then, yeah, guilty as charged.
Thought that sounded familiar, (Toss another blog on the fire ) almost like the male chauvinist national anthem " Put Another Log On The Fire " written by Shel Silverstein and sung by Tompall Glaser.
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I look very forward to the official debut of "Thinking Out Loud."
I am very curious to see how it begins and how it evolves.
I think many others will be drawn to it as well.
Blogging is still new for a lot of people, and by extension rather abstract.
I'm a definite newcomer; my only experience with blogging is visiting other people's Blogs; I don't have a Blog myself. (Just using the term itself becomes rather addictive, whether you're doing it or not.)
I have started reading articles in the newspaper, as well as postings within the "News & Record" Blogs, but I know I didn't pay much attention to earlier articles on the subject. I don't know excactly how detailed they might have been in explaining how Blogging works.
But since I missed earlier articles, and since other people may have also, follow-up explanation guides might be a good thing to offer.
One thing that the "News & Record" might consider doing in its editorial pages or within another section of the newspaper is a step-by-step mapping out of how Blogging works.
I'm thinking of something along the lines of the pages you devoted not too long ago to outlining how the editorial pages are structured and who and what goes into producing those pages.
You might include sample Blog posts that highlight how thoughts and ideas are exchanged.
I've seen print advertisements for your Blogs, but I'm not sure if a lot of people really understand what's being advertised.
One of the Sports Bloggers (Jim Young) even wrote specifically, "Don't be shy," and within that posting, pointed out how to post.
A "How To Blog" section in the "News & Record" might be a service that you could provide, a way to make Blogging less abstract, a tool for drawing more people to your own Blogs.
(At least one person, I believe, has pointed out that Blogs can function somewhat like the "Beep" section of the "Rhino Times"--as popular as that has been over the years, it seems like Blogging with the "News & Record" could become just as popular (maybe more so once people realize that Blogging allows you to control how your messages come out, instead of having to depend on transcriptions of voice messages).)
I may have the name wrong, but I believe it's Tim Rickard who does at least some of the artwork for the "News & Record." He might create a cartoon-like depiction of how Blogging occurs. A step-by-step written guide could accompany it, as well as an article focusing on How Blogging Works (as opposed to an article about how it's becoming more popular).
You might even create incentives for inventive postings, a way to draw more people in until they're hooked.
(I was reflecting on how I became a newspaper reader. I know it began either with the comics or the sports pages. The editorial pages are definitely my favorite section now, which is why I'm particularly excited that you are creating the "Thinking Out Loud" Blog. But in thinking about my initiation to newspapers through comics, it just popped into my head that you might want to create a "Comics" Blog. I'm not a regular comics reader any more, but I've sensed from some of what your staff has written that the comics inspire some of your readers' most passionate feelings toward your newspaper, positive or negative, depending on whether or not you keep people's favorite comics in your comics section. A Blog could allow an ongoing discussion of people's responses to comics, as well as debates about the value of individual comics.)
When do you plan for "Thinking Out Loud" to debut officially?
Posted on January 24, 2005 6:52 PM
Thanks for the comment, Mr. Floyd, even before the blog debuts.
I believe you stumbled into this site "under construction" when it was prematurely linked to Nancy McLaughlin's new Web log, "The Front Pew."
And thanks for all the suggestions. The blog premieres on Monday, Jan. 31 -- if the creek don't rise.
See you then.
Posted on January 25, 2005 5:50 PM
Mr. Floyd, by some measures you are now a blogger...when I wrote about the Dean campaign, I learned that some folks who only leave comments considered themselves bloggers...welcome to our world.
Posted on January 25, 2005 7:06 PM
Testing? Testing?? That is so typical of the liberal News & Record! I am so sick of this kind of bias! Cancel my subscription!!!
[This has been a test of the Emergency Blog System. In the event of an actual comment, you will be told where to put your editorial.]
Posted on January 27, 2005 6:20 AM
Today, an Editor's Note attached to Stephen P. Millikin's complaint about Molly Ivins' propaganda on Social Security reform made the astounding assertion that truth is a matter of conjecture or opinion. But then, I should not be suprised to learn that the esteemed and arrogant editor finds truth so elusive.
In the non-journalistic world in which I reside, a statement or thesis must be accompanied by body of evidence to support it to be determined truth.
The anger that I have expressed in these pages and letters to the editor is in response to conjecture & opinion being presented as gospel truth.
I do hope that the new approach openess and fairness that the scientific method will be given more respect.
Posted on January 27, 2005 11:36 AM
I'll be watching and perhaps even commenting.
Posted on January 27, 2005 11:37 AM
Jasper, the note said nothing of the kind. It said, quote, "The Ivins column expressed AN OPINION about what SHE BELIEVES to be some people's motives in their push for Social Security reform. Whether that observation is 'true,' or as you [Millikin] say, 'a total falsehood' is a matter of conjecture and, well, opinion."
In other words, Ivins' opinion is ... a matter of opinion (at least, absent more information). The editor's note doesn't even address "truth."
I won't speak for Allen, but personally, I prefer to be criticized for things I actually said, as opposed to things I supposedly said but actually didn't.
Posted on January 28, 2005 1:16 PM
Twist it as you will, sir, Ivian's opinion is a damned lie until there is more evidence to support the thesis. The pack mentallity of you journalists is overwhelming isn't it?
Posted on January 30, 2005 9:54 PM
Jasper writes: "In the non-journalistic world in which I reside, a statement or thesis must be accompanied by body of evidence to support it to be determined truth."
Can I move there? In the real world these days, might makes right.
In the scientific world, there must be a body of evidence, but then someone can just call all the scientists "liberals" and ignore their work.
So if you know of an actual ivory tower in which people take heed of evidence, let me know. I'd like to visit.
Posted on January 31, 2005 9:24 AM
Jasper: Well, if by "twisting" and engaging in a "pack mentality," you mean, "holding up the actual wording as evidence of my point," then, yeah, guilty as charged.
Posted on January 31, 2005 10:22 AM
Thought that sounded familiar, (Toss another blog on the fire ) almost like the male chauvinist national anthem " Put Another Log On The Fire " written by Shel Silverstein and sung by Tompall Glaser.
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Waiting curiously for the debute of "Thinking out loud."
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