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Grimsley will still be seeking a "Small Communities Grant."

So, if you worry that they will NOT be getting the money that the "Academy" would have brought, they most likely will still get it.

So, underachievers will STILL be addressed and the money will be there to back it up. It will just go by a different name and have a different approach then academies.

Do you think Grier would have left this decision up to the principals/parents at the risk of losing the grant money? NO. Grier never says no to a grant.

Thanks for your comment. You are right. The schools will pursue what appears to be a viable Plan B (if they get the funding). But the undercurrents of distrust are so strong that I worry about any option succeeding at this point.
The ongoing thread of comments on the Chalkboard speak to the tension and discord out there, especially from parents in High Point, who perceive a double standard in how the school system handles such matters. Is there any credence to that? I have heard precious few High Point parents come forward to defend what is happening there with the Choice Plan. Are they out there?
My colleague Doug Clark is a longtime High Point resident and an avid supporter of the schools there. At the risk of putting him on the spot, I wonder his take on the High Point-Greensboro comparisons running hot and heavy on the Chalkboard.

Allen, the double standard is more than perception it's a reality. My family is fortunate that if this cherade of a lottery does not work out next month, that Private School is an affordable altnernative.

I am certain that the residents of High Point appreciate the article on Private Schools that was in the HP section of the N&R today. Trust me that it kills me to even talk about private schools having grown up in very diverse public school system in metropolitan NYC where white was the minority.

However if it is the goal of Ms. Kearns and her puppet Ms. Mendenhall to have the HP schools at 100% free and reduced lunches then my family is prepared to do what it can to help them achieve this goal. The only thing I'm sorry for is that education vouchers are not yet a reality.

I would hope that you would be interested in a spokesperson on this matter that either lives off of Skeet Club Rd, Penny Rd, or Guilford College Rd. I believe you'll find 1000's of people who can compose sentences as well as any one on the other side of Main Street in High Point. And for that part care just as much as about all of the schools of Guilford County.

Sorry in advance for the tirade, but you touched a nerve when you offered up another spokesperson. I thought that was supposed to be Ms. Kearns and Ms. Mendhenhall, however that did not work out to well over the past 15 months.

I am sure that Mr. Clark is a nice person and I would be glad to meet him. I assure you that nothing I have said is directed towards him.

Re: Allen Johnson's 4 lessons learned:
1) Lots of parents of lots of different kinds of kids opposed the 9th grade academy at Grimsley. Interesting that Allen attributes the disagreement to the "have's" vs. the "have-nots." Perhaps he'd care to speak w/ the mom of a child coming to Grimsley for the lifeskills classes who was afraid her child would be shortchanged by the academy, or the poor grandmother who came to the parent forum even though she was not comfortable speaking out about her disapproval of the 9th grade academy when the rest of us were "using all those big words." When you try to reduce a substantive disagreement to a simple formula you miss a lot of people who don't fit your pre-conceived ideas. Polarizing a community with simplistic labels is an easy way to respond to criticism or disagreement that avoids the uncomfortable work of trying to listen and understand what folks are actually saying. Grimsely parents opposed the 9th grade academy for lots of reasons, one of them being that it seemed to us to be the wrong remedy for the problems our kids are having. The literature about 9th grade academies talks a lot about 9th graders havng trouble with the transition to high school, but the problem that was identified at Grimsley was that we have many kids failing and dropping out who have struggled in school for years. How is that a transition problem? Moreover, the solution we were looking at held very little promise for our struggling students: just putting kids on teams (just like they've been on and failed with for the 3 previous years in middle school)seemed to us to hold very little promise of educating those kids. When you are a 16 year old reading on a 2nd grade level what you need is serious, focused, just about one-on-one intervention with a good reading teacher. Would the grant provide that? No. The grant does not pay for teachers. There is no magic in a 9th grade academy; it is the content of what the school does that might make a difference in a kid's life, not the structure of the school.
It is true that completely breaking up large urban high schools into academies or smaller learning communities holds some promise for those totally failing high schools, and it is those schools (in Baltimore, NYC, Philadelphia, etc.)that are the subject of many of the SLC studies.
Again, we just didn't think that was what Grimsley needed.
On a personal level, I love it when people who don't know me from Adam dismiss me as a "have" as opposed to a "have not." It's been a long road from the children's home where I grew up, but I am grateful indeed to now be included with the "have's." I just also happen to think the "have-nots" deserve to have some real effort made to give them the one ticket out of one category and into the other, the ticket that made all the difference in the world for me: an education.
2) I don't quite understand Allen's "money talks" lesson. The small learning communities grant in the High Point schools is going to fund a lot of consultant hours, as well as travel and sub pay for teachers. It does look like it will put some materials in the classrooms also. But it won't pay for teachers, and teachers are the most powerful and important piece of education. So how important is the extra grant money, and at what cost does it come? Personally, I'd rather hear some real leadership talking around here than money doing the talking.
3)Now we parents have gone from being "have's" to "disgruntled parents!" (How about "thinking parents?") Yes, we all need to be engaged in finding solutions, because there aren't a lot of them out there, are there? If it were easy to fix the problems of students who fail and drop out, I believe some of our excellent administrators and teachers and ministers and other community leaders would have already done just that. Many parents at Grimsley and elsewhere would want to be part of those solutions, but are increasingly getting the message that their concerns about their own children are not recognized as legitimate or worthy of concern. Here's a novel idea: Those of us who seek answers might do well to work to bring parents from different backgrounds together around what unites them, as opposed to driving them apart based upon their differences. .
4)Communication wasn't the problem so much as the process was the problem at Grimsley. The administration knew last summer that we had received this grant to study smaller learning communities. The grant calls for the whole school community to be involved in any plans to restrucure the school -- parents, students, teachers and even the outside community. Yet nothing was said about the SLC grant or its implications until late December, when a small committee was chosen (not elected)to come up with what turned out to be a pre-determined remedy for the school: the 9th grade academy. The process called for very little real opportunity for input from the school community because the time was too short. Faculty members felt they were not being listened to, and most parents as well as students knew absolutely nothing about it. Then we found out, after finally obtaining a copy of the grant we were unwittingly working toward satisfying, that the 9th grade academy was only the beginning: if we wanted in the grant, we had to come up with a plan to put the whole school into smaller learning communities by the end of the grant period. As the experience in High Point shows, it's no problem for the central administration to come up with ways to re-design schools without much input from anyone - but we didn't think that should happen again. The Grimsley proces was antithetical to what the grant speaks of as necessary and vital to the school reform's success -- having a school community involved and supportive. If recognizing that makes me disgruntled, then I'll cheefully plead guilty.
And of course, "teacher" may be right in the end.

As I read Mr. Johnson's original remarks and then, Ms. Rodenbough's response, it strikes me that these same words could have been written one year ago when the High Point Choice Plan/Lottery was being debated. As Yogi Berra would say, "It's deja vu all over again".

Terry Grier and the School Board are still running amok, finding and implementing new and innovative solutions to the wrong problems, seeking to get federal grant money to fund their unneeded and unwanted programs, parents expressing concerns about the solutions being implemented without their knowledge and involvement, and blaming the lack of communication for bad outcomes. It appears that nothing really changes when it comes to the subject of public education in Guilford County. And, this is what we the citizens pay a tidy sum in taxes each year to enjoy? Is there any doubt why the business of private education is flowering in this county? Oh, if we only had a few more viable charter schools to provide some additional competition for these people. But, the reasons for the paucity of charter school options in North Carolina is another subject for another day. Perhaps, the News-Record would like to do an expose on this problem someday as to why we have such limited charter school opportunities in the Old North State, which I understand is limited to 100 statewide.

Melanie,

Your comments about "polarizing a community" really hit home.

They tried that number on all the good folks at SW last year. You wouldn't believe where a lot of these inuendos started. It is so easy to mislabel people just to keep the pot stirred.

People know the truth; good, honest, hardworking parents who want the best for their kids. That is nothing to be ashamed of. That best is not happening for any of the kids now in the HP Plan name changes weekly.

I am glad you have a home school.

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