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I'm a little ambivalent about unsigned editorials. After all, it's the prevailing N&R editorial staff opinion that usually takes into account what's "right" for the community. Maybe it's that I often agree with them, but I don't see what difference it makes who writes each one. The opinions expressed *are* the opinions of the management and that's all that matters.

I believe in accountability.
I'm Lilly, my correct email is listed in all my posts. It is my opinion that people who post anonymous or with someone else's name are scared, small people who hide behind the computer to say whatever they want to say, because they lack testostrone or something. If you believe in something, or have something to say, step up to the plate and dont be a poser.
Poser's arent cool.

That's your opinion Lilly and everyone has them. I post under my name.

But unfortunately, there are many teachers and other people who may lose their jobs if they come out and say what they want and use their name. I even know teachers who haven't given their names on a roll list at a site based management meeting. If they had to, they just quit. Other people work for business that have vendor contracts with the schools. There are many different reasons people don't want their names or more important their emails because of spam mail and threats.

So that is great you don't have these restraints. I am happy for you.

But some people do not have that luxury of true free speech.

Lilly, I enjoy a great deal of your writing.

I post under a different identity due to personal preference, plus I do not like to have my e-mail out for public view since I use it primarily for business purposes only.

At times I do write letters to the editor in both the News & Record and the High Point Enterprise. What startled me most about my letters was when there would be letters of support in later editions of the paper supporting what I had to say.

Barbara Ann, there is a way to be who you are and at the same time protect your anonymity. At least on the surface.
Get your free speech on people, but just dont hide behind the comptuer to troll posts, and stalk. That was what I was talking about.
Buckmtn, thanks. :)

Lilly,

I understand your point now.

I was also thinking that no matter what name someone uses, whether it is a false name or a real name or a false e-mail or a real e-mail address, we only have a perception of that "person" (whether real or phony name) by what they write. They write how they want us to perceive them. Is that who they really are? So once again, "what's in a name?"

I don't know anything about you, for example, except you name is "Lilly" and you do some blog posts.

If a person chooses to have their own blog site, we may learn a little more about them; and often more than most care to know about them and their person lives. Any website is the PR product of what one makes it to be. Kind of like going to your old high school reunion and pumping up what you do for a living; how much money you make, or what your kids do.

When it gets right down to it, the blogs are everyone's OPINIONS mixed in with some possible facts and/or rumors. After you read what a person has to say for awhile, then you can decide for yourself if they are credible or not; what kind of person they may really be; sift through the minutia and decipher all the information. And bottom line, consider the source.

Thanks Lilly for explaining.

Sure, glad to explain. I appreciate your kindness.

Personally, I think these comment threads distract from Allen's very interesting and what could actually be an issue-laden article. Unfortunately, Lilly, you are such a one-person show on everyone's blog, you give no one else room to comment. Please learn to listen more.
Allen, does general editorial policy (liberal, conservative, etc) get defined by the publisher? or do you define it as the editor of the page? And are there litmus tests for members of the editorial page staff?

Michael, thanks for the compliment. :)
I listen, and I reply. Sometimes I just reply. Interpert it however you wish. Don't hate me just because I'm good like that.

Michael,

You have just proved my point. Everyone can say their opinion and you have just given yours. Personally, I like reading what everyone has to say and then decide from there whether it is worth posting or not.

I see lots of room for anyone to comment if they choose. No one is stopping them. Sometimes there is just nothing to say or some blog sites, i.e., Jamestown North High Point is extremely boring.

In all fairness, Christopher, you do have your own blogsite where others can post many comments to if they choose and you can post very long posts on whatever you choose to start.

Nothing personal here.

Allen- the tradition of unsigned editorials is outdated. It is a new day! Are you going to tackle the Newsweek debacle?

Touche Barbara Ann and Lilly. Perhaps I was unfair. My only point was that these threads seem to go amiss from the theme of the original post. However, judgmental is judgmental and the light of day brings circumspection. I have been known to be too dominant a time or two myself.

No problem, Michael. We all have. For me, I mostly stick to Chalkboard because that is what I know.

Now back to the original strand - I think Chip was trying to get the strand back on target.

Sorry I have been MIA. My home computer has died on me and limited my posting opportunities.
On unsigned editorials, Chip, I am still not sure what purpose signing them would serve, since they are the products, at least partially, of a group discussion. I guess there's a case for authoring them by name on behalf of the editorial board, a la court opinions penned by individual judges. What do others think? I'm open to hearing your thoughts on this question and would be glad to share them with my colleagues.

Barbara and Mike,

I get visions of Chip and Dale as you politely excuse each other.

Off-topic responses are well-intended diversity. Facts back up statements, but opinion and personal experience adds color.

Allen Johnson's article may be well written, but nothing, I assure you, will ever dare to be compelling enough to shake the status quo.

Steve, part of the beauty of a comment thread is that it go to new, even unintended places in much the same way that an in-person conversation does.
Ever talk to friends and wonder how the topic evolved from one subject to another? Although one of my "House Rules" stresses continuity in a thread, it allows (as it well should) for the discussion to naturally flow to, well, wherever it winds up. Otherwise, the conversation can die on the vine -- and there's no fun in that.

You hide your goat well.

Allen

WELL PUT!

Think that is what kind of happened to Jamestown/HP blog.

He tried.

Barbie,

You can go about your day now.

Steve,

How did you know all my special friends call me Barbie or Barb? and great friends they are.

You cannot be Ken though - we broke up. He is taken.

Thanks.

Barbie

At first I thought you were a barnacle attached to the side of Allen Johnson. But then I realized I had seen you in a very old Japanese movie: Barbzilla. A fire breathing barnacle that looks like a doll, yeah, that's what it is.

And Steve, aka mean KEN. I thought you took our break-up better than that.

There is always hope in therapy. There are other women out there for you.

Now I really do think Allen needs his thread back. Of course this one has been way off course for too long.

Have a good life,

Hey there Stevie Wonder, I have not seen this kind of arrogance since the voters of Greensboro sent Mike Barber packing last fall.

Looks like you are still hating life in general.

When you acquire the skillset to establish intelligent thought and express yourself in a meaningful manner please check back.

Steve,

"Barbie" is a doll and she has a heart of gold. Don't mess with her, she CAN breathe fire if need be.

Yup, Barbara Ann, I'd appreciate that. Maybe you two need to trade email addresses. In the meantime, any more thoughts on unsigned editorials?

The Great 1,

You make it impossible to follow. Are you saying that the voters are arrogant or that Mike Barber is arrogant? Or perhaps there is a deeper, hidden arrogance, to which you refer, that is only known to your circle of hawks?

Maybe you should acquire the ability to express yourself in a meaningful manner before proffering the same advice to others equally endowed.

This is my first visit to this particular forum and thankfully it will be my last.

If you like to roast other people's weenies, maybe you should get a job at Yum Yum's. I should say apply at Yum Yum's. I doubt you'd meet the qualifications for the position.

Yes, Bigmouth, it confused me also. That's what you get when you use a square shovel and can't dig any deeper.

Barbzilla, I actually think you're nice and have class, I was just picking. Allen has taken my best shots and still shames me every time.

Great 1, that Google button is depriving you of some originality. You'll never realize this until your daddy takes those training wheels off. Be brave.

okay - time out - thanks for clarifying Steve - have no idea who you are so this was a surprising comparison

back to the original thread before the yarn started untangling.

I personally would like to see editorials signed by the person who is writing them. That was we can get a better feel for who you are and what you stand for. However, it is your newspaper, so I guess we can assume it is the opinion of the N & R and their owners. Am I correct in that assumption?

The Real Barbara Ann
aka Barbie

Yes Barbara Ann, it is the official position of the paper's publisher and editorial board, but not the corporate owners. They don't tell us which editorial positions to take. They leave that to each local paper.

That is good to know, especially at times when I have seen the tide turning.

There is hope after all even for a very liberal agenda at times.

I particularly liked No. 4 about "cruel and unusual punishment". That would be hard to take if you were that unlucky editor.

I agree with Barbara Ann's statement about getting a "feel" for individual writers. While the thought and discussion may be collective, is it not an individual who actually puts it together into an article or editorial?

Everyone who comments here or writes for the N&R has their own unique style. How is the reader to associate a style with anonymity?

Stevie boy, you are obviously way underqualified if you did not get the post about the arrogant Mike Barber.

With your lack of skillsets you'll have to work you way up to a job at Yum Yum's.

The Great1, I wanna know how you got your name?
Usually great people don't talk junk about other people. Usually great people are above such things. Great people usually do great things, I have yet to see any of the above mentioned things in any of your posts.
I sure would of provided you with another name if I had the chance to do so. Maybe you need to search your soul and come up with a name that fits you better? :)

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