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This is exactly what we've tried to tell the Guilford County School Board members. STOP treating the cities differently. If diversity is so good for one city, why isn't it good for the other city?

Then again, when you have a group called Action GREENSBORO backing the schools financially, where do you expect the focus to be?

Speaking of the Action Greensboros' Promotions of our schools,,I saw a commercial on the Tube last night with a Bad Actor telling us how wonderful things were going in Guilford County Schools...

I wonder if this Guy is Griers' Kin???????

This Commercial is full of Smoke and Mirrors that paint a Pretty Picture of the Pathetic State that our schools are in.....

Any Company looking to relocate to this area,,,who saw this Bull S&*# commercial would surely investigate and find the real truth about our schools...

There is Talk going on in North High Point of a Group that is looking in to the possibilities of the Secession of an area North of Oak Hollow Lake.

In the Past, the City of High point has had little use for this area other than relying on their Property Taxes to help save old High Point,,,,Little or no Gov't Representation from High Point, has led many in this area to drive to Greensboro for Shopping, Dining, Entertainment and Medical Care....

Wake Up High Point,,,,Greensboro might quite possibly Annex your Golden Goose.

I sat through a "State of the Triad" discussion and cocktail party at Grandover a few years ago and listened to everyone talk about "triadism" and regionalism.

Uh huh.

Greenpoint,

I resent strongly your implication that the only use Old HP has for N. High Point is our property taxes. In case you don't know it, SURPRISE, in addition to paying those wonderful taxes and surcharged electric bills, you and your spouse have been living and procreating as good citizens of Dottie's Schoolfixin' White Kids' Farm.

yA'LL NEED TO KEEP QUIET...AND KEEP ON...LOVIN'. Maybe by the year 2050 we'll see a turnaround!!

As for me...

Doug, you say, "The bottom line ought to be what's best for patient care, period."

Beginning about 3 years ago, I have always said, "The bottom line ought to be what's best for the children and their education, period."

Of course, we now know that High Point is "different".

Thanks to Dot and company, many of our smartest kids are now in private schools, home-schooled, or have moved to Greensboro.

Yes, we're different. And we're all the worse for it.

Old High Point (including Dot, Susan, Mayor Smothers and many more) has done so little to make North High Point feel like a part of "their" town that most in this area would back the Moses Cone project way before the HPRHS project. Like commenters stated above, they want us for our white kids and our tax dollars but nothing more.

It's sad to say but I'm quietly pulling for Moses Cone and Vegas, BABY!

Allem,

I knew that you made a mistake when you posted this strand. You set yourself up for the school comments. Of course, they are all true. Perhaps, you should just say "never mind". Perhaps, the economic developement and hospital issues are just like the school issues when you said that "High Point is different". It is true that everything that Action Greensboro has been doing is for the benefit of Greensboro, ot the exclusion of HIgh Point. So, why shouldn't High Point act on its own, just like W-S, and other areas cities?

Oh, I forgot to mention, the Greesnboro Schools and the High Point Schools were merged many years ago, so shouldn't we be treating them the same? I never understood why your and Doug thought that the "High Point Schools" should be treated as a different animal because they are "different". No they aren't. They are the same..they are Guilford County Schools. What ye sow, ye shall reap.

The facts are that High Point Regional Hospital is a first class medical institution and the largest employer in High Point. The facts are the Piedmont Triad along with many other areas outside of Charlotte and Raleigh are in a difficult transition period from a more manufacturing based (in High Point-furniture and textiles) to a more varied service based/ high-tech economy. Greensboro has a larger and more varied economy than High Point although High Point is in fact making great strides and finds itself with most of this new economy concentrated more in the suburbs between Greensboro and central High Point.

All hospitals have to care for whomever comes through their doors. They provide millions in free or discounted care by shifting costs to people with insurance. High Point Hospital, with it's smaller and less-varied market than Greensboro, is at a much greater disadvantage during this transition because of a loss of these manufacturing jobs and the atendant loss or reduction in insurance coverage of these people. If, while sustaining this, HP Hospital has to face off in a turf battle within it's own city against a hospital from Greensboro for access to the more robust economy in north High Point, it would put a great strain that could result in potential diversion of resources from patient care in other parts of the city. The free market thinkers may disagree, but no town can survive the loss or compromise of it's largest employer.

Although the jury is still out, High Point may survive Dot Kearns, Kris Cooke, Marti Sykes et.al. even though their actions have alienated thousands of people. Surviving a Dot Kearns / Moses Cone tag team match may not be possible.

There is no way I can get involved to help High Point even though I know how it feels to get shafted when it's clearly WRONG. I know how it feels when you expect your city to rally behind you but they never do. I CAN NOT and WILL NOT help in this fight.

When our one area of town was getting SCREWED by the school system, the mayor stood quietly, did nothing. The board members from Greensboro are the only ones that would listen to us. No business leaders from High Point were outraged. No High Point commissioners cared. The High Point City Council ordered election signs to be removed when this same group started to look like they might get representation. Election signs were never removed when Becky Smothers or Dot Kearns ran for their seats. Even the High Point Enterprise editors thought it was OK to shaft this one area of town with the Choice Plan.

I hope nobody asks for my help because I DO NOT CARE!! It's all I can do NOT to contact Moses Cone to see how I can help them. I'm going to sit back and let old money High Point fight this one on their own.

Add this to Dot's legacy she has been trying so hard to build. And if Moses Cone gets the deal, I hope they name a wing after her since she was the main player in tearing our city apart.

If HP lured Lazy Boy away from G-Boro then that's a problem. If Lazy Boy approached HP then can HP be blamed?

I sure hope Moses Cone comes to High Point. Diversity is the most important thing for a city to succeed.

High Point is the reason that the state
denied Kernersville a hospital last week.
High Point objected to Forsyth Medical
building a hospital there.
High Point Regional is a wonderful
hospital, but Kernersville is in Forsyth
County, and High Point should not have
objected to this. They want all of the pie,
and we in k-ville-sit here with no hospital,
but not for long, we will fight to the end.

Did the city of Greensboro use incentives to lure Dan Lynch from High Point ???????

Why is the Main Runway at PTI aimed over High Point?????

Why does Greensboro have a Scale School for Hoodlums, and High Point must do without???

Ad Signs at the Coliseum used to welcome visitors to Greensboro,, Furniture Capitol of the World....

This War has been going on for Years,,,but High Point still holds the label of Red-Headed Step Child...

Oh,,, I almost forgot,,,Why do High Point Schools Need Diversity,,,,While Dudley High school remains 99 % Black?????

Rox raises a valid point. High Point Regional did express misgivings when Forsyth Medical asked for the state's permission to build a new hospital in Kernersville, citing concerns about its market share.
Kernersville is, of course, in Forsyth County.
High Point Regional is not.
Meanwhile, Moses Cone has opened a new health care facility in Kernersville and High Point Regional is planning one.
It would be nice if the hospitals would come up with rules of engagement, even if it's that they only agree to let the market -- and the state -- decide.
As I understand it, some states, such as Texas, allow hospitals to locate wherever they want to be.

Free markets may not always work in health care. It's not like manufacturing and selling widjets. If you are in the widjet business, if people don't have any money, they don't get any widjet so the person who makes the best quality widjet at the lowest price can thrive on the free market.

In health care you can't refuse seriously ill patients admission to the hospital because of ability or inability to pay for your product, either by the dictates of ethical conduct or by government regulation.

If hospitals were pure free market businesses, they would leave areas where peple can't pay their bills and go to areas where they can. There would be no incentive to care for people who can't afford it. If you're a hospital in a less prosperous part of town, you will have a difficult time and you won't be able to compete with larger hospitals with greater abilities to cost shift.

It's a different animal.

I live in NHP. I live south of Skeet Club.
If Major Becky and the rest of the HP politicians push to give my local school back to my kids I will fight against Moases Cone.
If they don't then why should I worry. They can rot in HELL!!

Skeet Club is right. A hospital in the mouth part of town can't compete with a hospital in the wallet part of town. Our health care system is an almost perfectly bad combination of free market principles and top down, lawyer-driven socialism. Politically, there's no solution that will work until the math--health care costs rising 2X+ the rate of GDP ad infinitum--just becomes unbearable. We either to socialize medicine entirely or let the free market work.

I heard today that Hillary is going to reintroduce her Hillarycare Program and reform our badly broken health care system. When we get socialized medicine run by the government, the war between Moses Cone and High Point Regional will be moot. They'll do whatever the central government agency tells them they can do and what they can charge. As I recall, Hillary was also going to limit how many doctors could enter the various specialties. Now won't all of that be special? Hillary regains her leagacy just in time to become POTUS.

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