We coulda been a contender
This week's column is part of a special package on regionalism.
I am looking for a lot of men who have an infinite capacity to not know what can't be done.
-- Henry Ford
Long before the Carolina Panthers were even a twinkle in Jerry Richardson's eye, pro football could have come to the Triad.
Really.
Back in 1960, when Richardson, the Panthers' owner, was still catching passes for the Baltimore Colts, a Greensboro businessman began plotting a Hail Mary toss of his own: an NFL team, a 60,000-seat stadium on the Forsyth-Guilford line and a NASCAR oval with a 60,000-seat grandstand.
As Tom Ward envisioned them, the stadium and track would have been located in Kernersville and jointly financed by the two counties through bonds.
Of course, in those days neither pro football nor racin’ was the mega attraction each became over the next four decades.
But imagine what might be today if the idea had taken root.
Charlotte who?

"We missed it but we came close," says Jim Melvin, the former Greensboro mayor who serves now as president of the Joseph M. Bryan Foundation. "We could have had the Panthers' stadium and NASCAR.
"That would have been an anchor for the region."
Melvin says it was not that long a reach, either. "The NFL was still in its formative stages."
It was one of the most visionary and daring attempts at regionalism in the Triad's history. And it might well have succeeded.
The mad plot was hatched by Ward, an investment broker and a Greensboro native who had returned to the city after working in Atlanta, Miami and New York.
Ward was a former quarterback at Greensboro Senior High School, now Grimsley. He'd also played basketball in high school.
"I had always grown up with a passion for sports," says Ward, 75, who retired March 31 after 41 years in the investment business.
If Atlanta had an NFL team, Ward wondered, why couldn't Greensboro?
"It seemed like a wonderful idea to grow the economy.
"I had been to a game or two games in Washington and New York. Pro football was starting to grow. I guess it just struck me that we had this vast, underdeveloped land in the airport area. New roads were coming in and air service was starting to grow."
In 1967, he shared the idea with a number of people, including High Point business magnate Jake Froelich and former Winston-Salem banker Smith Bagley, a grandson of R.J. Reynolds who was mounting a campaign for the state legislature.
Ward didn't bring money or contacts to the table, but he had a talent for cold calls. He enlisted the help of Bagley, Froelich and others whom he had never previously met, simply by phoning them. Bagley was especially helpful.
"He was a big, tall, good-looking guy who was looking for a role to play," Ward says. "He said, 'We need to fund this. Let me make a call to my mother.' "
Mom responded with $100,000.
With their momentum and confidence building, the group paid a courtesy visit to the Charlotte mayor to let him know what was brewing in the Triad.
"I will never forget the look on John Belk's face when we told him what we were up to," Ward recalls.
Ward even consulted the King, Richard Petty, about the notion of a race track that would be "contiguous with the stadium."
Petty liked what he heard.
Ward and his group also traveled to Daytona Beach, Fla., to meet with NASCAR co-founder Bill France Sr.
They also met with NFL owners, including Rankin Smith of the Atlanta Falcons. They toured NFL venues in Oakland and Houston. They even sought and received an audience with NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle, who was favorably impressed by the Triad's demographics.
They sought and received legislation in the N.C. General Assembly that created a North Carolina Stadium Authority.
They commissioned an architect to design the stadium.
Here was Ward's vision:
• a 60,000-seat football stadium;
• a 2.5-mile banked race track for stock car and Indy car racing;
• a 650-acre site that would include paved parking for 24,000 vehicles;
• a drag strip;
• a $17 million bond referendum to pay for the complex;
• and another $8.2 million in bonds on the ballot for a Triad park and zoo on the other side of I-40
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Some thought the idea was nutty and unrealistic. Many others found it bold and exciting.
A scientific poll revealed solid support for the complex among residents in all three of the largest Triad cities, with 65.4 percent saying they would vote yes for a Triad stadium bond issue, even if it involved a tax increase.
(High Point respondents voiced the greatest enthusiasm, with 77.4 percent favoring a publicly financed stadium, followed by 63.5 percent in Winston-Salem and 61.5 percent in Greensboro.)
A consultant’s report cited largely favorable demographic conditions.
Titled "Economic Feasibility Report of a Sports Complex for the State of North Carolina," and compiled by the San Diego firm Darley/Gobar Associates Inc., the report concluded: "The Triad, Charlotte, and Memphis could be considered about equal as potential markets for football. The larger population base in Memphis is offset by its lower family income. Charlotte does not have a strong population base in the metropolitan area and is somewhat weaker than the Triad in terms of hinterland population."
But the complex never made it to the ballot.
In 1969, the Forsyth County commissioners voted in support of taking the grand plan to the voters. Their Guilford counterparts said no.
"So we never got it approved," Ward says.
The $100,000 in seed money ran dry.
"It just sort of faded out," Ward says of the stadium bid with a smile and a sigh.
Ward redirected his energies to his career and his family.
"Personally, I’m trying to make a living, and I’ve got three little girls who’ve got to eat and who I want to provide with an education," Ward recalls.
Ward still wonders about what might have been.
"I think it could have triggered us looking like Charlotte. We've got the railroad. We've got the air service. We've got the interstates.”
But do we have the vision?
On making things happen, in Greensboro or anywhere else, Ward says, the formula is simple.
"I've learned a lot from my friends in Charlotte and the mind set they have there," he says. "I've sort of got this attitude that you can set out and do anything you want to do until it's proven you can't do it."
Yes, the Triad in general and Greensboro in particular are nice places to live, Ward says.
But they can be so much more than that.
"No question about it."
For audio of Tom Ward discussing the stadium bid, click here.
To read a companion story on notable hits and misses in Triad regionalism, click here.
Comments (7)
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If this is such a great idea,why not let private money pay the bill? Tell me one of these projects that have done a thing for John Q Public. If you folks at the NR can find away to get in the peoples pocket book, you always support it. I think I still have a copy of your ringing endorsement of tax hike Mike, how he will take care of the taxpayer, that is has done, taxed everything in sight,to pay for Blacks lawyers, tall ship rides for his rich friends, etc.
Posted on May 20, 2007 7:36 AM
Doug:
A number of these projects have been privately driven. A number also save money by pooling costs and resources. Are you arguing against a regional water authority?
As for the NFL stadium, the voters would have had the chance to say yes or no ... if the commissioners had given them that chance.
Posted on May 21, 2007 8:52 AM
As for the governor's race, we did endorse Easley, for better and for worse. Who was your guy?
Posted on May 21, 2007 8:54 AM
Allen, have you ever been to a NASCAR race? I'm thanking the folks who kept that racetrack from becoming a reality. All we need is more Dale Earnhardt nitwits around here.
(To attract classier money, I think we should build the world's largest polo complex.)
I don't know how realistic this project was--it sounds to me a lot like the MLB effort a few years back, which was never going to happen--but I'm glad it didn't. Let Charlotte be Charlotte.
Posted on May 21, 2007 2:04 PM
Allen,the N & R came out against most of the bond projects last year, especially those that could generate dollars to the community and also provide a service to the Greensboro community. I have yet to figure out how the paper can have such an opinion and influence on the community, yet be so casual about it's research and reporting. I just shake my head in wonder. Then to report on all the lost opportunities. Will you be reporting in 20 years about the lost opportunities that your news paper tanked this last year. It takes substance and an understanding of economics and business, and not fan fare and show biz to make things move forward. Please understand the papers responsiblity, it has attempted to lead, yet brought us to the swamps. Please seek to understand skills, experience of the paper and short comings, and do not stand up as the expert! just too much smoke and it gets thicker. There is too much contradiction!
Wack..duckman
Wack! the duckman.
Posted on May 21, 2007 9:26 PM
Duckman:
Which specific bond projects are you referring to? We supported many, but ot all of them. But being visionary does not mean giving our leaders a blank check.
Taxes already are poised to rise significantly in the city and the county this year.
A major difference in the case of the 1969 stadium bonds and the 2006 bonds: according to surveys, voters favored those bonds but never had a chance to vote on them.
As for our research and reporting, we thoroughly studied the bonds, and included in our research a 90-minute session with the city manager as well as meetings with proponents of the various projects.
What did we miss? Tell me more about your concerns, please.
Posted on May 22, 2007 6:32 AM
Allen, thank you for the interest. Research does not mean sitting around a desk in discussion of what is heard. There is little doubt that journalists can write. It is about homework and this means making calls to other cities to discuss the operations and finances of certain projects. It is about taking risks and not about making people feel good without effort or contribution. Talk is flat too easy! I am surprised that a report supported by thorough research was not done regarding the probable increase in taxes long before the article last week. Please remember the time table of events, one came before the other. You can not use current actions or events to defend the past positions. Hell, I would not have had anyone vote for public projects given the news last week. But what is the problem! Property tax rates do not have to go up when public projects are supported and completed. As we have seen over the last five years, the city and county have harvested tax revenues as values rose by demand. As any successful corporation does, large or small does, it squeezes costs and produces better and creative products, and thereby gains the moment to go on to the next day and challenges. You deserve a chocolate chip cookie, but more effort is needed, not happy talk. I believe that is what leadership is about!
Quack..duckman
Posted on May 22, 2007 6:56 PM