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Ewww. what makes a place single-friendly and why greensboro isn't...hmm. some have already been discussed

Space: Heading to out for a night on the town? its most likely downtown or on battleground.

Cliques: Sometimes it's like people haven't tried to find themselves and are content with their role in whatever group they are in. (I think Dr. Phil said something like that)

Man, I need to do more investigating before my next move. I think it is a matter of time only before that happens. Moving here has definitely not been a good thing in the relationship dept.

another thing is stereotypes! Here are some I've heard and then You'll see why this is an ongoing battle.

The Brass Taps: Karaoke Cliques. If you don't know anyone there, you won't get to know anyone there.

NClub/Red Room: Meat market.

Somewhere else Tavern: Once you turn 21, its over and done.

Much and Heaven: Crowded and expensive

Natty Greenes: Crowded with cliques that didn't want to go to M'Couls

M'Couls: The cliques that got there first and grabbed a booth or table.

Any place on Tate st.: College and indie crowds.

The Pour House and Arizona Pete's: Redneck central.

Artistika: Se habla espanol? No? Alto Aqui!

Greene St.: UNCG

Fanatics: Frequented by Greeks (not the nationality)

The Tap Room, The Rhino and Backstreets: Late 20's and up.

Jabs, Tuscana, Renaissance, A touch of class, Alexander Devareaux's, Remix VIP, Atlantis Cafe: "Black" Clubs (black clubs is the general expression for any club whose client base is predominantly black. NOT because of shootings.) any place that has multiple shootings is considered a "Thug club."

Hey idiot (savant),

You missed a few, but yeah i heard alot of the same ones.

I've always had a good time at the Westerwood Tavern. Each time I've gone there, I've talked with folks until last call and it seems like time flies by. Of course the female roundup was one heading back to Georgia in the morning, another one who didn't have time for a relationship and another who kept wanting to hear a pat benatar song on the juke box. none the less, it was good.

The Clubhouse is kinda random, I run into new people everytime I'm there.

I have no idea what Cooper's Ale house is supposed to be. they have this 70's mountain lodge feel going on in there.

I went in Chumley's once and walked back out, I can't remember why.

Solaris doesn't seem to be doing their friday late night techno stuff anymore.

There is nothing wrong with Cafe Europa except you need to show up with people.

Inferno is something i can't put my finger on. they are a 70's 80's disco thing. Not my scene, era or musical interest. However, some of the women that go in there are enough to change your mind some nights.

Churchill's is expensive and they know it. its an upscale place complete with valet parking, of all things.

I think its time that the single people stand up and say "Damnit, I'm single but i aint tryin' to stay that way!" Who is with me!?.........anyone?...(crickets chirping)

As far as the cliquey bars (i.e. natty's, mccouls) go, I frequent those with my friends, sit around a table, etc. And I know that that's not the most inviting atmosphere to a guy. But that doesn't mean one or two hasn't successfully infiltrated it. If you can work up the nerve, or the clique looks relatively drunk and, thus, friendly to strangers, just jump on in!

Wingman, I'm with you ... I think. What does this grassroots movement entail?

If you wanna catch some good looking fish you should take your pole to a well stocked lake -

I want to go to a good singles party. And no I'm not saying a swingers party. I'm talking about a party where you know everyone there is single and looking. I don't want anyone there who is "in an open relationship" or "just got out of a bad relationship" or even "I'm just not sure so I figured i'd see what's out there." and god knows that means no married, engaged or otherwise occupied folks either. I want to see us singles come together over a comedic competition of jenga, mini golf, bumper cars, ultimate frisbie, fooseball, pictionary, scene it, trivia or any other games that all parties can laugh at the end. Maybe I've watched too many episodes of Friends and My Boys or something.

a well stocked lake doesn't do a bit of good if they aren't biting.

Most people who complain about a place are really whining for themselves. While Greensboro isn't the Mecca of single-life, it's not a ghost town, either.

They really need to look at what's holding them back from meeting people. Too desperate? Too judgmental? Too shy? Too likely to poo poo a place rather than accept it for what it is, deal with it and find some good?

I can't stand people who move somewhere and then pitch a fit about the place. If you don't like it, leave. Or, while you're here, you may as well make the best of it.

If all you do is sit around and complain about how much it sucks, two things happen.
1) Negativity breeds negativity. And you eventually close off yourself to the idea that something good could happen.
2) You inadvertently repel potential love/dates/phone numbers because you're being negative.

There's nothing wrong with being surly from time to time, but you gotta check it with some open-mindedness and good humor. And I'm not talking jokes, here.

I noticed Idiot Savant posted a list. Am I the only one who can see the common thread in all the places on that list?

In Greensboro it's the church of your choice or the bar of your choice and you can bet it's planned that way so make you're choices while you're young-- become a Bible thumper or a drunk.

Chronicles of the Wingman had a pretty good idea except for 1 major flaw: How to be sure all in attendance really are single.

As for Wingfella... I think he's what they used to call a ringer.

Not only will they bite, you can hook 'em with the right bate. In fact, you'll have trouble getting rid of 'em. And remember - somebody somewhere is tired of 'em -

I thought of a non-bar, non-church place to meet people. Just after I moved here I went to a couple of events at Blue Ridge Mountain Sports. On their web page they have a detailed calendar of weekend trips, classes, guest speakers... all kinds of good stuff.

I didn't meet any date material there, but that store is a hub for some cool and well-networked people. I'm not an uber outdoorsy person and I felt perfectly welcome and at ease among the guys and girls there. And sure, they would prefer for you to buy a bunch of gear at their store, but I didn't feel like that was a price of admission.

Then after the hike you can go to a bar and have a beer.

found another one: A gallery opening Friday night and Saturday afternoon at Winter Light Gallery and Art Studio.Chicks dig art. Here's the link.

Looks like they have painting and calligraphy classes. I would worry those might be full of empty-nester type women but that could be useful in its own way.

Getting set up by somebody's mom can work. I went on a couple of dates with a guy whose mom sent him to ask me out. He was a retired pro basketball player and had started working as an investment banker. For some reason, I guess money and hotness weren't turning me on just then.